[Christopher Robb]

This is an area of deep suspicion- but where the signs, certainly in the UK, are very vague and possible veering on the conspiratorial side.

I see little of any evidence – except the occasional day when the con trails are just too numerous and compact and forming an almost perfect Grid structure – which is so unlikely with contrails.

In the central south of the UK I have only seen this twice in the last year, but in the South West (Devon and Cornwall) where my daughter lives, it seems a more regular occurrence. These are described here a “Chem trails”.

I watched a U-Tuber on the subject a few weeks ago. Frankly I felt what they were describing as utter nonsense! Contrails do exist and perhaps (to be kind) they can be easily confused.

However, the “Authorities” should be aware of how we have been deceived so often in the past and have never revealed the truth. For example, we are now relatively certain that the Sars Corona 2 virus was an invention of the United States Military which escaped…NO ONE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS MURDEROUS ACTIVITY. That is a failure of the USA Justice and political system – and all western governments seem to have brainwashed their peoples – apart from those who will always question things and long may they exist!

Perhaps – to be a conspiracist for a moment – they really are trying to reduce the world’s population…….. If so, what right has anyone to make these decisions? Does Money give you the right over life or death????

Perhaps we should always “Follow the Money” which in my experience normally exposes the truth…………………..

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[IMA-HelenT]

Thank you @chris from uk … please do watch on Wednesday and let us know what you think of the discussion.

[Gregory Pilcher]

No discussion of geo-engineering can be complete without acknowledging Dane Wigington’s many contributions. He has been on the forefront of the effort to inform the public about the true scope of what governments are doing. RFK, Jr interviewed him a couple years ago on his podcast. You can see a more recent interview at the following link. IMA’s panel should address his work if they want to credibly discuss this topic. https://open.spotify.com/episode/528qgGWLqLkDRgXzjhruzU?si=jPrxpyHhSKeGYPyBR8QzHw&utm_source=sms

[wsred]

One way to look at this is we have been ‘geoengineering’, affecting the climate on a large scale,

for a couple hundred years, with the massive quantities of carbon and

other greenhouse gasses we have been putting in the air and water over

such a relatively short time period.

There is still a lot of coal, oil and natural gas in the ground, but much of it is

so difficult or energy intense to extract that it will likely be left there.

Unintended consequences of our actions are often only seen in hindsight.

Thanks and good health, Weogo

[Julio Trujillo]

Finding out the why of these efforts would be important because people could then understand more receptively about the politics, strategies, propaganda, etc. around the measures taken.

See, it’s difficult to accept as a “why” that they want less people in the world. Because, although it could be partly true, they still need people to do labor, right? I know the robot takeover is near, but the efforts started way before that takeover was considered.

But then, there’s an evident benefit for these entities that everyone understands, which is money. Lots of it, $billions, maybe $trillions, which are quantities difficult to grasp.

Although that makes more sense, people need evidence to better process the situation. And even then, denial, shame and comfort are such powerful emotions that, even with enough proof, many…,maybe most, simply fall in.

Dr. Aseem Malhotra calls it “willful blindness”.

I think the “blindness” can be interchange with “ignorance” or “denial” and keep the same meaning. It’s a conscious thing that societies prefer to do instead of confronting the state and its “authorities”.

I did. It was very uncomfortable. People distanced from me, including family, and I lose some friends. As many others experienced across the world.

Of course, this was during the covid “pandemic”, but the climate change discussion, originally “global warming”, is very similar.

We didn’t understand at first, but knowledgeable scientists and researchers already chimed in.

Climate change is mostly causes by the gradual movement of our planet’s axis, which means it can’t be stopped. Climate change and other effects are inevitable.

Unfortunately, this isn’t understood by people, because this fact isn’t discussed much. We keep talking about the greenhouse gasses and such, because that propaganda brings $$$$ to interested entities that don’t care about the impact to “lesser” humans. Those arguments were created for the global warming model, which we know is incorrect.

Attention to these gasses and fossil fuels is important, but because they’re dangerous contaminants for the environment and humans. We can’t live with those contaminants and fossil fuels keep increasing in cost, which means oppression and suffering for humanity by way of making power inaccessible.

That’s another issue.

The inevitability of climate change means that the environmental impact will happen, in turn humans must adapt. Governments should plan and help their citizens with the coming situations, but they aren’t.

This is when people must organize to demand for adequate measures, which have nothing to do with the greenhouse gasses or any other stuff related to temperature.

Geographical impact studies are needed to warn and help the people who will receive it.

Is any geoengineering been done for this inevitability?

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