[David Balius]

To answer your final two questions, no and no. Given what the American people were subjected to during the pandemic, and what the results of the 2024 election have yielded so far, why should we believe anyone will ever be held accountable? The opportunity to make amends has been and is being squandered, and when conservatives are voted out of office again, will be lost forever.

[IMA-HelenT]

I hear and feel, your frustration @db4him a lot of people feel that sense of “we’ve seen this before and nothing changes.” It’s hard not to feel disillusioned when accountability has seemed out of reach for so long.

At the same time, do you think the sheer volume of documents and growing public awareness might shift things, even a little this time? Sometimes it feels like pressure builds slowly… until it can’t be ignored anymore.

What would accountability even look like to you at this point?

[David Balius]

Those who committed criminal acts either being incarcerated or fined, or both. Justice is not served until those who willingly and deliberately caused harm to others actually are made to repay for their crimes. When this occurs, it may truly begin acting as a deterrent to future repeats.

[Morgan Sky]

Thank you Helen and to answer your questions. No I do not have one ounce of faith in our banana rethuglic. After living and surviving nearly seven decades and not being a herd animal which is why I knew to avoid the so called solution for the most recent bio-weapon release, it is clear that the techno-capitalist billionaire class especially the politicians are loyal to their donor class and career security over everyone else. I expected much better from RFKJ having followed his career for 4 + decades and his campaign but at the end of the day he got a life boat on the upper deck of the Titanic and that is where he remains. TY Ron Johnson but if he and his comerads were unable to expose and Prosecute the Epstein class over several decades to protect our children, I seriously doubt there will be any real consequences or justice for the death star class who planned padded pockets and rolled out the Covid weapons. We are on the brink of a WW3 or Nuclear winter at this point proving that we the serfs the tax payer extorted slaves have any real recourse. Our last real President, “for the people by the people was assassinated.” Since then we have just been blindly electing the same class to do the same thing, serve the donor class.

[IMA-HelenT]

I understand your skepticism, when we see trust being broken repeatedly, it’s not easy to believe anything meaningful will come from it.

I think a lot of people here are wrestling with that same tension, we want truth and accountability, but not sure the system is capable of delivering it.

Do you think the growing number of people questioning things now could eventually force change from the outside, even if the system itself resists it?

[Jeff Gerber]

Let’s throw into the pool https://youtu.be/XwjDeRglkwg . That’s the “Why can’t we talk about this?” movie featuring Michael Oesch who had walked entirely across Canada and who now can barely stand and nearly died due to the vaccine. Methylene blue, red light therapy, and Augmented NAC are what he’s been using and is finally seeing improvements with. Case studies like this need to be graphic, to show that this isn’t just numbers on paper or in VAERS, this is real people with real lives.

[IMA-HelenT]

Cases like his are exactly why people are pushing for answers. Regardless of where anyone stands, no one should feel like their experience is ignored or dismissed…. loved this documentry, and his attitude was just amazing.

[robin-whittle]

The creation of SARS-CoV-2 by government funded U.S. and Chinese labs, the subsequent coverup of this – including by the majority of virologists – and numerous aspects of the disastrous response to the COVID-19 pandemic by governments, the majorities of whole professions worldwide, constitutes a vast, entirely man-made, distortion of what should be occurring. Millions dead and still the mainstream media avoids most of the questions.

Every country was impacted by this – only a few in high sunlight areas (Africa) were not severely affected.

Not a single government has tried to investigate the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. So every national government, worldwide, with most or all of their opposition parties and their health administrations, is grossly incompetent.

However, individuals (Jim Haslam https://jimhaslam.substack.com), dedicated teams (https://usrtk.org/covid-19-origins/) and especially a substantial group of United States Republican Congress men and women https://oversight.house.gov/subcommittee/select-subcommittee-on-the-coronavirus-pandemic/ have done excellent, crucial, work.

The Democrats on the Select Subcommittee had no interest in finding the origins. They virtually worshiped Fauci et al. and continually mischaracterized the investigations of the Republicans as unfair attacks on great American scientists. For instance, see the video https://www.c-span.org/video/?529219-1/hearing-origins-covid-19 Robert F. Gerry and Kristian G. Andersen of their hearing in which Robert F. Gerry and Kristian G. Andersen testified.

One good result from the COVID-19 debacle and its coverup is that more and more people have adopted methods of discovering and discussing what is going on which are not as biased as the mainstream media. This has led to greater awareness about how broken many of our systems of governance and mainstream media are and have been for decades.

There’s no short description of what is wrong in these cases, but I suggest that “corrupted, groupthunk ineptitude” is a pithy way to start. This doesn’t cover the instance of outright malfeasance AKA evil intent, which is the only way most of us can understand the behaviour of some of the most prominent people involved. In the COVID-19 debacle, this applies especially to the actions and subsequent coverup activities of Ralph Baric, Tony Fauci and Peter Daszak and to the lab-leak denying virologists who follow in their wake.

There’s a long list of comparably destructive debacles in wars, politics in general, censorship, deliberate weakening of Western societies . . . . this goes well beyond health and infectious diseases.

Future generations will wonder why it took so long for everyone to learn of the necessity for proper vitamin D3 supplementation to attain the 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) or more concentration of 25-hydroxyvitamin D in the bloodstream which the immune system needs to function properly. “Corrupted, groupthunk ineptitude” covers most of the barriers which have yet to be surmounted, but some of it is due to straight out evil: pharmaceutical industry suppression and unreasonable criticism of vitamin D science. See Bill Grant’s 2018 article: “Vitamin D acceptance delayed by Big Pharma following the Disinformation Playbook”, Orthomolecular Medicine News Service: https://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v14n22.shtml.

We all know that dictatorships – by individual despots or whole political parties and religious movements – lead to terrible outcomes. Democracy is the only obvious alternative. However, the COVID-19 debacle and all the others which also involve the actions of ostensibly democratically elected governments, show that democracies are easily corrupted and that in fact the corrupted patterns of professional, corporate and government actions often totally overpower what would happen if everything was run according to the intentions of a well-informed public.

I hope Ron Johnston and his team, and more broadly the Republicans, are able to do a really good job of analysing this mass of documents and of promoting the cases against individuals, organizations and companies to the point where robust legal action is taken. Unfortunately it seems that neither the Trump government nor past or likely future Democrat governments have any real interest in tackling these abuses.

[IMA-HelenT]

@robin-whittle I think many people would agree that trust in institutions has all but disappeared.

There are so many layers to what you’ve raised, origins, response, media, governance…. and it’s understandable why people sense that its bigger than just COVID.

I do hope that more independent investigations and discussions that seem to be happening now, could lead to an important shift.

What do you think would be the most important first step if there was a genuine effort to get to the truth and restore trust?

[robin-whittle]

There are multiple cases of the mistaken beliefs and actions during the COVID-19 pandemic still being broadly supported, when what is needed is widespread recognition that these beliefs, priorities, policies, actions etc. were both WRONG and should not have been adopted at the time, since professional people who are paid to decide and act on these things for the benefit of the public should have seen, very clearly, at the time, that these decisions would most likely, or certainly, harm rather than protect human health.

The public pays these people and should be able to trust them, both at the time of making the decisions and after they have made mistakes. If the public decides to trust some other bunch of people, professionals or not, in each particular realm of endeavor, that conventional bunch of professionals who should be doing the job tends to object stridently.

Each such case involves the majority of whole professions, worldwide, since if a majority of the profession, even in one medium to large country, or an influential enough subset of the profession in a country or worldwide, stated very clearly what the profession, in general, did the wrong thing during the pandemic and insisted on steps to avoid such errors in the future, then we would all know about it. All these professions, worldwide, with the notable exception of a few individuals and the U.S. Republican Congress people on the COVID-19 subcommittee, failed in their responsibilities to the public during the pandemic and have continued to fail since then by not acknowledging their failure and working to prevent its repetition.

Virologists. Doctors and to a lesser extent (less power and responsibility) nurses. Public health officials and academics. Epidemiologists. Vaccinologists, whose failures extend far beyond, and precede, the COVID-19 pandemic. Hospital administrators, who accepted government funding in ways which reduced or prevented the use of effective treatments and encouraged harmful medical interventions including especially ventilators and remdesivir. The mainstream media – print, radio, TV and Internet news. Social media companies who generally censored important discussions of their own accord and/or due to government pressure. Politicians and senior public servants in governments who coerced or unreasonably encouraged people to accept treatments and supposed preventives, most obviously mRNA and adenovirus vector based gene therapy injections (falsely marketed as “vaccines) and who prevented or discouraged people and doctors from using effective treatments, most importantly vitamin D3, while ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are the best known.

Virologists: Why should any virologist who did not recognise, by late January 2020, that SARS-CoV-2 was a lab release – AND publicly state this, as part of trying to prevent virologists making the same mistakes in the future – ever be allowed to work in the field again? Today, only a small subset of virologists recognise this. If it was the majority, the entire field would be in turmoil in an effort to prevent, forever, the Gain of Function research which lead to this catastrophe. That recognition by the majority, the resulting turmoil and robust regulations to prevent all such GoF research must occur before the public can reasonably trust those vaccinologists who remain in the field. With only a few exceptions, they are paid by the public.

Imagine a country entrusts a bunch of chemical engineers to manufacture explosive munitions for the military, in order to protect the country from invasion – and the factories they build and run explode, sending explosive devices all over the country, harming and killing a substantial proportion of the population, terrorizing everyone and causing trillions of dollars damage. Why should any of those people be allowed to work in their field again unless they, very quickly, recognised what went wrong and worked assiduously to prevent a recurrence?

Likewise the majority of doctors and those who administer professional medical associations. The public relies totally – life and death – on doctors, in particular their own one or more personal physicians and other specialists. These professionals’ primary contract and responsibility is with their patients, as individuals who totally depend on them. Most doctors caved in to government and medical board pressure to alter their care for patients in ways which were profoundly wrong, and which benefited the manufacturers of vaccines, so-called vaccines and other expensive, patented and so profitable medical interventions such as the failed anti-viral drugs and monoclonal antibodies.

A few doctors did object to all this, and to the censorship of discussion – most notably the founders of the FLCCC -> IMA. But the vast majority of doctors failed – and continue to fail – this crucial test of their priorities. All it would have taken is a noisy-enough minority of doctors in any Western country, such as here in Australia, to stand together and state clearly that the restrictions and “vaccine” mandates imposed by the government were at odd with the needs of their patients and of the public in general – and that as medical professionals, they reject all such interference, since their primary responsibility is to patients and the public, not to governments, or at least not to governments who are so mistaken as try to force such harmful restrictions.

This did not happen. The great majority of doctors were cowed into submission by threat of disbarment from their lifelong calling.

Why should the public trust this majority of doctors?

It would be OK to sack the great majority of virologists. We wouldn’t need so much research if everyone’s immune system was working properly, which is only possible with proper vitamin D supplementation to achieve at least 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#00-how-much.

We can’t kick the majority of doctors out of the profession. The public needs them and needs them to be well informed, highly principled and protected from the unreasonable influences of government and the pharmaceutical industry. If they are not independent, their employment needs to be contractually arranged and legally regulated so they can make all their clinical decisions on the basis of benefit to the patient. Governments need to enforce medical standards, but the regulators and professional bodies need to fully recognise their failings in the pandemic and ensure they do not make such mistakes in the future.

The majority position of all these professions, worldwide, are locked together denying the man-made (the U.S.A. and China) origins of SARS-CoV-2 and still supporting all the grave errors of the pandemic response. This house of cards will eventually fall.

I think the most urgent need is to prevent virologists, worldwide, from engaging in GoF research – any efforts, not just genetic engineering, but serial passaging and other techniques, which may, or will increase a pathogen’s virulence or transmissibility. This includes bacteria, viruses, fungi, yeasts and multicellular pathogens of all animals and plants, not just those which threaten humans. GoF research proceeds to this day, now with much greater funding due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Jon Fleetwood reports on this, for instance: https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/usdaniaid-funded-scientists-build .

[IMA-HelenT]

Agree, preventing future risk, especially around research practices, is essential, lets hope we can develop a pathway to getting a global agreement on gain of function.

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

I believe that with the given supreme court, nobody at the end will be liable if one does not change the strategy. As both (Pfizer/Moderna) phase III Covid trial 6 months reports did show there was zero affect regarding death one should attack all people that did deliver fake/cheating vaxxine studies using illegal ,short time frames… The Pfizer 6th month report had the same quality as the “randomly mixed” immune therapy by Biontec. Moderna was serious and the Modena data did show a clear, big rare cancer signal. On this one can work too!

 

I did compile a first summary of all the facts US people never will hear. An average Indian from Uttar Pradesh did die 350x less likely from Covid than an average US Citizen. (Most of) India did stop the Pandemic in July 2021 with the drugs we all know!

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/404162595 (Who_organized_the_no_treatment_Covid_mass_murder ?)

 

The Vaxxine killing is ongoing as CDC still recommends the poison, where as Novavax is pretty save but still the wrong epitope. In Japan the older get the 7th dose and die in very large numbers.

So the first task for a really deep attack would be: Find a Pfizer “vaxxine” vial from the phase III trial. Then check whether its PCR clean or bred! I guess that CDC is obliged to store some!

[IMA-HelenT]

Saw an update today from Senior Fellow Dr. Mary Talley Bowden “All providers who gave the shot signed a contract requiring them to report any possible adverse reactions to VAERS. If they didn’t, you can sue.

Our website to check if your injury was reported is almost ready….”

Will keep you posted as we hear more.