[vegandan]

With what you have described, it is perfectly understandable for your concerns about the insult to your health from the possibilities of attending this family event. You have taken a lot of precautions to avoid Covid and stay as safe as possible from getting infected. That being said, there is a distinct possibility that you are in fact already infected with the spike protein and your body may have already handled the impact in the form of mild symptoms or possibly none at all. SC2 is pretty much endemic throughout the world. It is most likely similar to many other viruses like the cold and flu. If you otherwise have a healthy and robust immune system and/or have been using a good regimen of antiviral therapeutics, then your body is probably going to handle the SC2 fairly well.

That being said it would probably be wise to continue with the precautions you have described and not worry about what anyone else thinks about what you are doing to protect yourselves at this event. I would still consider going to the event because I doubt that the risk of community gatherings is not going to go away anytime soon. So if you don’t want to be living in a bubble for the rest of your life, this is the new normal and you need to adapt by taking the precautions that you are taking.

One additional item I would consider for your prophylaxis is to add high dose Vitamin D as soon as possible. People with high levels of Vit D in their blood did not die or have serious complications from SC2. I would consider 5000iu twice daily through your events in order to get your D level up fast and help provide protection. After the event you can get your D level checked and see if you are around 80ng/ml or more and adjust your dosage accordingly.

Although you have health concerns, statistically you are probably pretty safe and your risk of infection is most likely pretty low. And with all your precautions and preparations I would think you should just concentrate on having a good time with your friends and family. My opinion only and not a medical pro so grain of salt.

[JIm Stolzenfeld]

Thanks for the reply.

Am pretty confident we have not been exposed to COVID, as we don’t go ANYWHERE without our respirators – and go very, very few places period. We have not: eaten in a restaurant, been on any kind of transit (including planes, trains, busses, cabs, etc), gone to church (YouTube church instead), been to a large gathering indoors or out (including skipping all major holidays and the annual family picnic the last 4 years). So, our risk of exposure has been 1/10,000th most other people.

We do supplement with Vitamin D. (Roughly 2,500/day).

Also forgot to mention that we are both immune compromised. That aside, I can probably point to hundreds of examples of younger, by all appearances totally healthy people who thought their immune system would protect them from what was until only recently a Biosafety Level 4 virus (only one level below Ebola). Immune systems do not protect from something like COVID, and the examples of that being the case are everywhere.

@physicsgirl was on the Forbes “30 under 30” list (so obviously pretty young) and outwardly looks healthy as one can be. Got married. Went on her honeymoon. Got COVID, which turned into Long COVID. Has spent the last 18 months (I believe) in bed, unable to do pretty much ANYTHING. Can’t even read or listen to music. Even talking is reportedly very difficult / exhausting for her. That’s all documented on her Twitter/X page by her husband (as she’s unable to post anything herself).

Another example – Singer Linda Rondstadt. Lost BOTH her hearing and her ability to speak (let alone sing) after her 2nd COVID infection. Has since regained her voice, but they currently think the odds are high that she will be deaf for the rest of her life.

There’s reportedly a 10-15% chance of developing Long COVID even after one’s first infection. That jumps to ~25% on second infection, and 40+% on the third. Even if those infections all outwardly appear “mild”. There’s substantial research (including some by the renowned Dr. Peter McCullough, which is summarized in a whitepaper he co-authored) on the internal damage COVID can do to..just about every single major body system. Many people are totally unaware of this, sadly.

Having the health issues we do, I’ve studied this virus several hours a day for the past 4 years, reading everything I can get my hands on. Because of that deep level of research, I know what it can do to people including @physicsgirl and the 20 million plus people that are reported to have “some” degree of Long COVID. So, hence the reason for my anxiety. I don’t want to be among those 20+ million people who wrecks the rest of my life with some lifelong health condition or total debilitation.

Net net, I take the virus very, very seriously – because I know what it can do (and has done in tens of millions of cases) to people..yet, if I skip these events – it’s going to frustrate both wife and me. If we go, and get COVID, I have absolutely zero confidence our “immune system” (even if they weren’t already compromised) would protect us from what’s the deadliest, most damaging virus of any of our lifetimes.

[KarenStewart]

When I’m at large events where I’m concerned about transmission, I usually do IVM 0.2mg/kg the day before, that day and the day after. If I don’t have IVM on hand, I take black seed oil instead. I also increase my vitamin D and take zinc & quercitin during that time. Immediately after returning from the event I do nasal spray and gargle. Usually just listerine & Xlear, but if I’m particularly concerned I’ll do the 1% povidone iodine gargle/nasal spray.

I’ve attended conferences and funerals indoors with hundreds of people and no mask and have yet to catch Covid (blood tested several times — no antibodies). Same with flying – no mask. Anywhere there is good airflow like being outside, I don’t have any concern anymore.

At this point, Covid is ubiquitous — it’s everywhere and will be forever — mutating and changing but it’s part of the landscape. For me (I’m 65), I’ve chosen to use all the tools & knowledge provided by the FLCCC and medical freedom doctors to keep myself as safe as possible, but to also live my life.

If you decide you want to attend and not wear masks, I would suggest that you test drive it a bit at small local events — maybe a farmer’s market that isn’t too crowded. Or a walk in the park. Somewhere you might normally wear a mask but isn’t super crowded. Do the prevention routine you feel the most comfortable with and go out just to get used to how it feels. For me, I noticed when I first went back to my local farmer’s market without a mask, it took me a few times to feel comfortable again.

You have the tools — you know more than the majority of people. Hoping you are able to go and have a great time at your family events!