Safe hospital in emergencies?

  • Safe hospital in emergencies?

    Posted by mamabear on December 28, 2024 at 7:58 pm EST

    I was wondering if there are any hospitals one can turn to in case of emergencies. I personally lost all trust in the medical field, especially when it comes to big pharma mills like Kaiser. It is my biggest fear that my child or even I require emergency assistance from a hospital doctor. Sometimes we require medical care that requires us to “go under”. I do not want to submit to that as I cannot control what is being injected into me or my child when we are “out”. An example would be an infected appendix. Where do I turn if my child requires surgery? I am capable of making sure I don’t sign anything that I don’t 100% understand, and I would put a note on every single piece of paper, stating “no injections, no blood transfusions”, etc. But will hospitals care? Or are they going by their “protocols” (movie recommendation: Protocol 7: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt26669823/) that make hospitals the most money? What do parents do in case of emergency? Are their ethical and honest medical professionals we can turn to, even if that would require having to hop in a car and drive somewhere within the continental U.S.?

    Gosh, 4 years ago, I would not have ever dreamed of even questioning this or not considering going to the Kaiser just 4 miles down the road from my house. But now, everything has changed. At least for us…

    ithirtz replied 4 months ago 10 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Tracey Holekamp

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    December 28, 2024 at 8:52 pm EST

    I have several forms that can help with that- if you are interested email me: [email protected]

    I give them to all my patients

  • hfr

    Member
    December 28, 2024 at 10:14 pm EST

    If you or a loved one must enter the hospital, make sure you or your loved one always has an “advocate” by their side, staying on top of everything that is going on, asking questions, double-checking what meds are being given at what dose and frequency, etc. If you have a planned surgery coming up, some hospitals will let you donate your own blood for use in that operation, if you’re worried about the purity of the general blood supply. Another idea is to try to find out from a nurse who works there who the best surgeon in that hospital is for the operation you’re going to have.

  • peacock81505

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    December 28, 2024 at 10:23 pm EST

    I wonder if anyone agrees with me that a patient will have the most problems if he or she is on Medicare, Medicaid (or whatever is your state’s eviqolent to Medicaid), or if he/she is insured with big insurance groups. The reason for this is that those entities have too much say about the direction of the patient’s care. It seems like you’ll get better care if you say you’re a self-pay. (And then provide insurance info after discharge.) Also, if you’re able to go to a small town hospital but get a personal recommendation (like you’re trying to do now), it seems like hospital employees and administrators in smaller towns are not as money-hungry as their big city counterparts. They’re more likely to do the right thing. I am following Dr Gold as she is trying to pave an alternate healthcare path but that group is still working things out. They have you pay $10/monthly to get referrals to like-minded providers but it’s all out-patient at this point. Regarding something like appendicitis, which is also my concern, I think DIET is my best friend. I’m not insured and I’m saving money for emergencies like that. And I learn all I can regarding preventative medicine (diet mostly) and I have a few alternative medicine tricks (hacks) which I’m hesitant to divulge here. There is an MD (Harvard med school trained) who, years ago, was ostracized and persecuted by her medical boards because she was healing patients naturally. She moved out of the country and no longer has her license (not sure if the details) but she offers a course in self health and says she teaches people how to stay out of the hospital. Her name is Dr Jennifer Daniels. I like her but I don’t know much about her course.<div>

    Good topic. Thanks for bringing it up.

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  • mamabear

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    December 28, 2024 at 10:29 pm EST

    Thanks for mentioning Dr. Jennifer Daniels. I’ll see if I can find something online.

    Appendicitis was just an example. Kids participate in sports and can get injured. Broken bones, etc. Women can develop female issues that may require surgery. It really can be anything. Anything that requires a hospital stay and surgery or even an IV. I would not trust that either.

  • mamabear

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    December 28, 2024 at 10:31 pm EST
  • schreib69

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 12:51 am EST

    Well, you are right to worry, but it is a crappshoot. The best you can do is stand your ground and insist they do stuff your way. The only other way out is attempt to treat your family yourself.

    I had to have 10 stitches in my leg last year and went to the local ER. It was no problem, but that is nothing like if I had to be anesthetized. They asked FOUR times if I was SURE I didn’t want a tetanus shot. I had to be pretty emphatic to convince them, finally saying I want NO vaccines period, stop asking.

    I sure don’t want any blood from them. . . figuring it could be even worse than mine– jabbed with Pfizer crapp twice in 2021. At least I have had a couple of tranches of Ivermectin to make some attempt at detoxing.

  • bruce pinkerton

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    December 29, 2024 at 1:21 am EST

    I am a physician, former emergency room, doctor and interventional radiologist. I firmly think that when it comes to emergencies, you must utilize the available emergency room resources to take care of you and your family, and you must trust the physicians and their judgment. This is necessary in an acute care situation. If on the other hand, you are suffering from a chronic condition you have the luxury of time to engage in your own research.

  • CommonCents

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    December 29, 2024 at 3:19 am EST

    I was a registered nurse for 40 years and I’m now retired. I specialized in community health, communicable disease and vaccination. After Covid I became an anti-vaxer. However, in an emergency situation I would strongly recommend a tetanus vaccine. You are not killed by the tetanus bacteria but rather you would be killed by the toxin produced by the bacteria. It is deadly if you are not immune. I watched a 40 year old patient die a horrible death from tetanus. This vaccine does not have a bad track record like many others.

    Also, in an acute emergency situation you will also likely need antibiotics. It wouldn’t be the worst thing for a one-off occasion and could save your (child’s) life. I wouldn’t recommend turning it down. Septicaemia is deadly.

    I agree with what Dr. BP advised as well.

    I recently had a total hip replacement. I made arrangements to have a close nursing friend be my ‘Durable Power of Attorney’ (DPA). This authorizes her to advocate for me for all health/medical concerns if I become unable to make decisions for myself. I completed the forms in detail, explaining what my wishes are and I also went over everything in detail with my friend. It was very reassuring to have her at my side and ready to act if necessary.

    You can research online for Representation Agreements or DOA examples. I found some great online resources.

    It’s great that you are doing all your research and are preparing ahead. However, there are times when the best thing you can do is get the available treatment that you need and then pray. Prayer can work wonders…

  • Kathryn Anderson

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    December 29, 2024 at 11:16 am EST

    Dr. Jennifer Daniels is wrong about a few things. The best this for menopause care is to put your hormones (estradiol, progesterone and testosterone) back to premenopausal levels. After menopause your levels drop to as little as 1/25th of premenopausal. Fat cells try to make up the difference, but it’s not very effective. Bio identical hormones are the same molecule as you once made. FDA approved. hormones are superior when they are identical. She says that birth control is the same molecule as HRT. Well, no. The best HRT is identical to the molecule you once made. Birth control is a similar molecule, but not exact. We call that synthetic. Please don’t think that you don’t need hormones. I’ve studied this for years. The consensus is correct — lower levels of disease in. HRT supported women. HRT women are 50% less likely to die from Covid – HRT strengthens your immune system if you use an identical molecule. Most research is done on non-identical HRT.

  • Candy Douglas

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    December 29, 2024 at 11:57 am EST

    This is easy…have a living will filed at hospital and keep a copy in your wallet. ….and make sure you have a name or 2 names on your living will that will enforce your wishes…this is legally binding….I think drs like living wills cause it let’s them off the hook…..

  • ithirtz

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 2:46 pm EST

    This is a difficult issue in the world today. I am a retired MD and have had several emergency room experiences that I can share.

    1. I had severe infectious food poisoning (EColi) had bloody diarrhea, severe vomiting and was taken to the ER. I sat in the ER for 4 hours running to the bathroom with such severe diarrhea that I no longer urinated due to severe dehydration. I told them I was a MD but it didn’t matter. My husband began making such a fuss that they finally put in an IV, antibiotics and something for the nausea. My labs showed that my kidneys were shutting down due to dehydration.

    2. My husband began having a very rapid heart rate of 140. When it didn’t stop I called 911. The ambulance showed Afib which was stopped prior to arrival at the ER.

    3. My husband fell from his galloping horse (he’s 74) and was knocked out but quickly came too. Very confused. I called 911. The ambulance took him to a trauma hospital 60 mins away. When I got there, he had been scanned and was awake and oriented. He had a subarachnoid hemorrage and a small subdural (bleeding around the brain). While in the ER, he began to become agitated and disoriented. After I rushed to the nurses station twice to demand the Dr. come because he may be rebleeding, he was rushed to the scanner, then the ICU. Neuro didn’t want to do surgery at that time but his bp kept going up and I could tell he needed to urinate. The nurses wanted to straight cath him (temporary way to drain the bladder) but I insisted they us a foley (stays in), knowing that he would have to be cathed several times which would raise his bp. I insisted on several other issues over the course of his stay.

    Bottom line. If it is serious ALWAYS call 911. The ambulance is not cheap, but they can begin treatment, it assures he will be seen very quickly and taken to the most appropriate faculty. You are the best advocate for your loved one. Be there. Always ask questions about what and why, consequences of doing and not doing. No one cares as much as you do and you have a right to make informed decisions. The trauma hospital was a teaching one – always be leery of these. Your loved one is being cared for by unskilled, student (resident) doctors who only report to the head of the department. The nurses are your best friends, they do the work and know who is good and who isn’t. They are the ones really taking care of your loved one.

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