[wsred]

Hi Helen,

I have no expertise here. My understanding is that the PCR tests showed antibodies; is this incorrect? If there are antibodies, does this mean there was, for some people, a very low-grade infection that they didn’t notice?

Thanks and good health, Weogo

[IMA-HelenT]

Great question… My understanding is that a PCR test detects the presence of viral RNA … meaning it identifies active or recent infection, not antibodies.

Antibodies (like IgG) are measured through serological (blood) tests, not PCR.

[Paul Smith]

I have lost all faith in the system (which makes it hard to get medical care I can trust). I did not comply before and I will never comply again until I have done thorough research from alternative sources like the IMA.

At the moment, no, I do not think that those who need to see the evidence are seeing it. MSM is still blocking virtually everything that comes from the IMA and confounding science. They are still not telling the truth. People don’t know what happened to them.

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks, @shortstop … I agree its so hard to trust the system, but there are some amazing health care providers out there, thank you for your support of the IMA.

I think that this is getting out in tiny droplets, not via old media, but via independent people like this community sharing the findings.

[cattlerancher]

I didn’t comply the first time. Why? Because I suspected the people doing the dog and pony show were up to no good. Back in the 1990s I was wondering why we all got sick every winter. We got the vaccine, so what’s up? I quit taking the shot, and to my surprise I was not sick every winter after that. I might get a fall cold, but that was the only thing I got all winter. So no more vaccines for me. Looking into vaccines you will find this years vaccine is last years flu, so they say. So, common sense says that now you infected yourself with last year flu again, and weaken you auto-immune system for the next virus or flu that comes around. Smart thinking for big Pharma. YOU have the OPPORTUNITY to be sick ALL WINTER.

And what about the PCR tests. The PCR test according to the inventor can only detect dead viruses, not active ones. Some suggest that since they are not swabbing the mucus and most people complain about the pinch, are they collecting DNA, or injecting mRNA into your system. We do not know what is at the end of the PCR swab, do we?

[IMA-HelenT]

So glad you managed to stay unjabbed, as am I, but I know so many people that felt forced to get it and I do feel for them.

I know that in the UK for instance, something like 98% of all medical staff at the NHS are not getting any more Covid jabs and even far less taking flu jabs too. So there are cracks letting light shine through. 🙂

[grantmorgan1906]

I also wondered what was used on the end of the swab.

[grantmorgan1906]

Kory Mullis who developed the test said it was not to be used as a diagnostic test. Unfortunately, he died in August 2019 (I think). There was a video where he said he did not think too much of Fauci.

[grantmorgan1906]

I never had a PCR test. I’m unvaxxed.

[cattlerancher]

Kory also said that the lab should only run 17 cycles which is the most accurate result. CDC recommended 37 times. Hmm. Did they plan on have inaccurate results to claim more people were infected?

[grantmorgan1906]

And if you’re vaccinated, a lower number is used and if you’re unvaccinated, the higher number is used.

[N521498]

Can the link for this study be provided? I try to check sources out. Thanks.

[IMA-HelenT]

Of course ; https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full

[vegandan]

I do a heck of a lot of my own research now, more than I did pre covid. I have a few trusted sources of information from places like IMA and Dr. Been. I have a hard time believing what the main stream medical establishment regurgitates, knowing that it is standard dogma from day to day practice. If you want alternative thoughts you have to do your own research and look at contrarian views. Typical doctors treat sickness with pills trying to discover the magic formula that works instead of looking at the more likely underlying cause of diet and lifestyle. Focusing on wellness rather than sickness is often secondary to their motivation to keep patients in the system. I’m a big proponent of the concept of an ounce of prevention and act accordingly.

[IMA-HelenT]

Amen @vegandan I resonate with all you say. I often ask people why they have an illness or chronic condition, and it always amazes me how few people want to know why, they know all the symptoms and drugs that help the symptoms, but never explore the root cause. I suppose we are a product of the industry…. so glad we have such amazing people like you in our community.

[Jeff Gerber]

Yep, copy/paste vegandan.

[IMA-GregT]

👍

[Kevin Hope]

I’m unvaxxed and never took a PCR test. I was aware of Dr Kary Mullis’ statement about not using the PCR test solely as a diagnostic tool, and immediately felt something was off when the government here in New Zealand started pushing these test and claiming they were the “gold standard”. Afterall, Jabcinda claimed she was the single source of truth, a second red flag for any thinking individual. Unfortunately, the New Zealand MoH is still peddling these “vaccines” and even making the outrageous claim that vaccinated people have 25% lower risk of developing certain cancers. I have not been able to find any peer reviewed studies that support this claim. However, I have read studies that show those that have been jabbed twice have a 300% increase in colorectal cancer risk.

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks for joining the conversation @darton … all the way from NZ. You certainly had a leader that was very scary during covid.

[IMA-GregT]

@darton I see Jacinda pop up with her supercilious smile every now and then and hope that there is some kind of accountability somewhere sometime. I think I read many thousands in NZ were exempted from the shot, while they were forced on the population. It beggars belief.

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[Morgan Sky]

Would you ever comply again, and do you think this might be seen by those that need to see it? Maybe it is my 60+ years of developing my BS detector and maybe it is my Native American DNA but nah I would not trust any ‘for profit’ healthcare anymore. My instinct from the start was this is a sham and probably a bio weapon. I did comply with wearing a mask and made my own with better filtering. It was not always easy with so many family and friends complying and trying to pressure us but I am grateful that I had been following a “woke” guy online who predicted everything exactly as it unfolded in the very start and then he vanished. Then I got turned onto the FLCCC from my mechanic and that was a god sent as well as Health Freedom because I was already a subscriber to Sayer Ji Green Med Info. I do not think this will be seen by those who need to see it only because , I see many unwilling to effort themselves to go counter CULTure and I believe that the Rona/vax will be adding more cognitive decline to those who were perhaps already declining when they got it. With my family they seem to be destined to the zombie apocalypse and I do not think they are the minority.

[IMA-HelenT]

There is a quote that goes something like this… “People fall for propaganda ‘en masse’ and come to see the truth one at a time.”

That’s why this hill we are climbing feels like it’s going on forever, but I have seen ardent supports of everything COVID not defending their positions anymore, and even sending me articles that they would never have looked at a few years ago.

Thanks for being here, and do keep speaking up.

[cattlerancher]

As long as quotes are on the horizon, I will take one from whom I believe was Albert Einstein _ “It is easier to fool someone, then to convince them that they have been fooled”. So the next time you tell a friend or family member that the information that is out there is wrong, you maybe able to understand why they refuse to believe you.

[IMA-GregT]

@cattlerancher so, so, so right. Again and again and again, I’ve tried, but, now if I see their shutters come down, I’m learning just to walk away. It’s hard emotionally, because all you want to do is help. They have to come to it in their own time.

[David Klemitz]

do you have a link to the study please ?

[IMA-HelenT]

Sure, here you go… https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/epidemiology/articles/10.3389/fepid.2025.1592629/full

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In Germany, a consortium of authority-accredited laboratories (ALM) covered approximately 90% of all severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Co...