[Barbara Schewel]

I have many, many “friends” who think the doctor’s word is gospel. I have stopped sharing vital information with anyone other than someone who shares my curiosity, knowledge, and skepticism; and that is a very small number of people. I think that unless a person has been personally harmed by any medical substance, they are not going to be too concerned about it. I have 6 inherited (through a new marriage) grandkids, and the parents of those kids (ages 3-12) are not interested in one thing that I send them, often articles or recordings from IMA and the HighWire. I don’t understand this mentality. I make an effort not to judge, and that’s difficult enough. The problem is that people still listen to and believe mainstream media, their physicians, and each other. And since people stick with their own kind, I don’t recognize much progress in awareness or even questioning. I think skepticism and curiosity are innate. And intuition has to be valued in order for it to be noticed and followed. Thanks for asking good questions.

Barb

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks @bks I heard someone talk about a tactic that’s really helped me, I ask people to please share their studies with me as I say I am always open to learning, they often answer that they don’t have studies, they just heard it …. then I offer to send them something I have read.

Sometimes it works….

[thekidIV]

Yes, I too have a 71 yr old friend that says “I trust my doctor”, and he and his wife and 3 adult children have all had at least 5 jabs. He was then diagnosed with a cancerous lesion on his lower esophagus in Aug.’24. So he had 8 chemo treatments followed by a 9 hr surgery to remove about 2″ of his esophagus and replaced it with a new one made from part of his stomach. Now he has pretty bad Neuropathy on both his hands and feet. If anyone knows of any protocols and/or treatments that would correct that, I think he may try it… and that would likely lead him to being more open to learning about alternative medicine, as his doctor has no answers for his condition and says its just a side affect of the chemo he’ll likely have for the rest of his life.

But I’ve just been forwarding he and his fam articles and pray that they’ll come around some day, as talking to them goes no where.

” It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled” – Mark Twain

“You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink”

[IMA-HelenT]

I feel your pain @thekidIV … lets hope someone has a suggestion to help with his neuropathy.

[Tracey Holekamp]

This is partly why my Holistic Practice is so busy… many people want to leave their doctors or their insurers for alternative care but don’t want to have to “learn” a new way. They just want guidance that is easy, safe, and effective

[IMA-HelenT]

True @traceyh …So glad that people have someone like you to help.

[Dr. Wawa]

Just a little friendly reminder:

Sloth is one of the Seven Deadly Sins. I am not a believer, but I do find the list useful. People usually focus on such sins as lust, gluttony and envy. They forget about sloth–yet it can be ruinous. The people who could have learned all they needed to know about the Covid injections but did nothing to find out were harmed considerably if they got the injections. Sloth is a killer.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

[IMA-HelenT]

What an interesting way to look at “sloth” because people are often busy with so may of life’s distractions we can believe that we are being effective, but you remind us it’s dangerous to forget the first priority we should have, the health of ourselves and our loved ones.

Thanks for this reminder, will have to look at all 7 of these again.

[vegandan]

I believe most people are like my sister and her children. She is a high school graduate from the sixties who was an average student. She hasn’t thought much about her health in general since she had open heart surgery to fix a hole in her heart in 1962. Today she has a pacemaker, CVD, CKD, gout, and a very high BMI. Her kids are both obese and have diabetes. My mother who passed earlier this year at the age of 98 was also obese with CVD lost one leg to DVT and was about to lose her other leg before passing. None of my family has been particularly concerned about their health until now. My sister is barely functional and her son just lost his foot to diabetes. I’m the only healthy member of our family and the only vegan in the family as well. I call that a clue. My sister wants to get healthy and I have been coaching her for years. But she gets confused about all the differing points of view about what she needs to do to get healthy with all of her current medical conditions. She has a GP, a heart doctor, and a kidney doctor and from time to time emergency room doctors that are all giving her technical advise that she simply doesn’t understand. Since last year I have become her medical advocate and have stepped in to ask questions from all of her providers regarding her treatments. She is currently on more than a dozen meds with 3 of them being diuretics to treat edema, and 3 blood thinners because of her risk of clotting. So a lot of confusing medical stuff going on and it seems like the doctors are just practicing to see what works and what doesn’t. I’m more concerned about getting her weigh down so that she can get into a health cycle instead of treating the symptoms that don’t do anything to get her healthy. They are looking for stability and I am looking for improvement. I’m certain that my family is not alone in being whiplashed by the medical establishment and getting so frustrated with dealing with the professionals who are just doing their job. Well their job should be more that just treatment for stabilizing a condition. It should go beyond to improvement and prophylaxis. Knowledge is power. And the medical profession, like the legal profession, gets the big bucks because they belong to clubs that have special knowledge about technical subjects that the common people don’t have. So this is where we are at. I am working with my sister to change her diet and change her lifestyle to try to get her healthy again. I have been successful in getting her weight down in the last couple of months from 240 to 200, a target weight she hasn’t seen in 30 years. Then her doctors stepped in and changed her medications so that her edema returned and she ended up regaining 20 pounds of interstitial fluid. We will be doing a deep dive into her diet to address her kidneys and try to keep her out of dialysis. Stage five is very close and I would like to get some degree of healing her kidneys rather than keeping her in stage four for the rest of her life. We lost the war with my mother, but I am hopeful I can help my sister avoid the same fate for a number of years.

Fortunately my family listened to me and no one in our family got the jab. One less thing to have to deal with.

[IMA-GregT]

👍 Thanks for this note @vegandan. Your sister and your family couldn’t have a more engaged and knowledgeable health advocate. A very hopeful story, even in its frustration and complexity. Will be so interesting to hear, over time, how your sisters outcomes improve.

[vegandan]

Thanks @IMA-GregT . Got an update from my sister this morning. My nephew was told yesterday that his organs are starting to shut down from his diabetes. He was told he has about 6 months of life left. My sister is devastated that after losing her mother earlier this year that she is facing the possibility of losing her son soon as well. She is a worry wort and stresses about everything. Which doesn’t help her medical issues. So just one more thing that we are having to deal with in our family.

[IMA-GregT]

@vegandan That’s just horrific. I can’t imagine the additional stress that creates for your sister and the whole family. Just horrible. So sorry to hear. Hoping for a miracle.

[vegandan]

@IMA-GregT Yes life is odd the way things happen. Will continue plugging on with my research to try to keep my sister with me. Don’t have much confidence in her medical team that sees her as just another customer.

[IMA-GregT]

@vegandan 👍 Absolutely worth it.

[goldenarrow]

Every human being within 300 miles of where I live is impossibly complacent and adheres to “the system”, especially after the overt mind warfare the mainstream media did to denounce every “conspiracy-theory” over the last few years, even if those became conspiracy-fact later on. There is no way to break through the mind-numbing brainwashing of the media. Doctors are always trusted because they have “credentials”. Anyone without “credentials” are just lame “conspiracy theorists” or other excuse to not talk about it. The only way is to create a free resource that is AI-driven that can spit out a 2 page summary of their disease, what protocol to use, where to get an M.D. to talk to who can walk through the 2 page document. People really are that complacent and turned-off by anything controversial. Provide them something free, that is easy to implement with appropriate guidance.

[IMA-HelenT]

I often point out to people that so many people that changed the course of modern medicine were not qualified e.g Florence Nightingale … and they were often dismissed to start, but their protocols changed the outcomes for all of us. I think the real pandemic today is the lack of critical thinking, so glad we are part of an organization that’s helping to educate people and provide resources. Thank you for being part of this movement @goldenarrow

[guy dickinson]

Boy did you pull on a thread here! Seems the best we can hope for is some day some how that video, graph or words will trigger one to question the narrative. I’m told a friend with three young girls that lost their mother last year decided to follow the doctors advice on the HPV vaccine. I had sent { in a caring manner) a video with Dr. Paul Thomas on HPV & brought up the financial incentive, etc. Does often seem a lonely road, ‘Truth is treason in a land of lies.’

[IMA-HelenT]

Thank you for walking this road with all of us, even though it’s not an easy journey.

[guy dickinson]

Thank you, this is a wonderful forum!

[IMA-HelenT]

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