Nature Doesn’t Pay Dividends

  • Nature Doesn’t Pay Dividends

    Posted by IMA-HelenT on August 11, 2025 at 8:28 am EDT

    “Maybe those decades of blonde hair dye are finally taking their toll, because I can’t for the life of me figure out how not wanting to be poisoned could be considered irrational.”

    In her normal tongue in cheek style Jenna tackles the establishment media and its “experts” that are attacking Kennedy for his moves to make the people of America healthier. Why are some people so resistant to these changes, have you had lots of push back from family and friends?

    Read the substack here https://imahealth.org/heres-a-thought-nature-doesnt-pay-dividends/

    IMA-HelenT replied 5 months, 2 weeks ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Jeff Gerber

    Member
    August 11, 2025 at 6:56 pm EDT

    🤣

    There is some absolute lunacy happening right now with respect to people’s reactions to when Secretary Kennedy made the statements about halting mRNA Vaccine Research. I recently heard a person saying they were going to rush out and get a COVID mRNA vaccine before they’re gone because of what Sec. Kennedy said.

    I get that the average person doesn’t understand medical technology, but my goodness have they lost their fruit-loops. <insert a cartoon visual of chicken little running about with hypodermic needles labeled as mRNA in its wings>

    People need to stop with the knee jerk reactions and do an ounce of reading https://www.hhs.gov/press-room/hhs-nih-announces-generation-gold-standard.html . But maybe reading isn’t in their wheelhouse.

    Or, just maybe, the problem is we have a planet full of vaccine injured people with parasympathetic systems off-line, thus creating frenzied overactive sympathetic behavior.

    Relájense mis amigos…

    • IMA-HelenT

      Organizer
      August 12, 2025 at 11:12 am EDT

      I do think the combination of vaccine injury, daily struggles to make ends meet and of course the twisting of facts is having a real impact on people, they just want to stop thinking and just accept what comes along.

      • Jeff Gerber

        Member
        August 12, 2025 at 11:23 am EDT

        I took a little time to type up a segment from https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-patrick-soon which I think is very appropriate for this.

        52:57 – Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong: (recounting a conversation with Bobby Shriver) “Absolutely Patrick, a lot of people ask me to introduce to Robert. You know, Robert and I don’t speak very much, we’ve had an argument about his ideas” but he said, “I understand but I’m going to give your number to Robert, to Bobby Kennedy, um, and he’ll call you.” Bobby called me in 10 minutes. I said, “Bobby I’d like to introduce myself”. He said, “Patrick can I meet with you?” I said “Please”. And he came to meet with me at my home. And we had this long conversation. And I realized. And I’ve watched your show with him. He is what he is. An authentic man with a sense of purpose, conviction, courage. He says what he really believes, sometimes it may be wrong, sometimes it may be right, but he says what he believes. And I really believed, oh my God, yes, somebody who would have the courage to take on the world and ask the questions.

        54:00 – He said “I’m going to support you”. That’s what happened. That’s how I got to know him.

        Tucker Carlson: Amazing. He was dismissed by, uh, not just dismissed, he was attacked and vilified by a lot of people in the medical establishment I would say. Everybody. Why were you willing to listen to him?

        Patrick: Because what he’s saying is exactly what I was saying. And I’m sort of attacked by these same people because of the dogma that’s out there. So, let me give you this example, I said, “Bobby…” and I shared with him this story about Hope Hicks, I said “you probably just walked out of the office and I walked in”, um, in 2016/2017. I said, “Listen, people think of you as saying ‘you shouldn’t have the polio vaccine’ that you’re an anti-vaccinator. What you really are saying is you’re worried about the excipients inside the vaccine.

        Tucker: “The what?”

        Patrick: OK so that’s the technical, the materials that go in with the vaccine.

        Tucker: The mercury etc.

        Patrick: The mercury etc. So, I understand there is a polio vaccine, there’s one, two, three, four, polio vaccines that have been manufactured. And now all of a sudden there is a new polio vaccine that has been manufactured in which you have cow serum, calf serum, inside that vaccine. And I know you know, everybody knows, and the UK knows, that you can get prion disease from this calf serum, because you can’t measure that, so, that got approved in 4 days. With, just because of safety just the way dogma is happening. But there are other polio vaccines. So you can take the other polio vaccines, but don’t take that one. Just like I was telling you about a propofol story over breakfast, um, and you should explain it that way. That you just want it to be examined. And he said, “Exactly”. I said, “Okay”. Not only did I get him, he’s asking the right questions. And people are scared to ask these questions because of perverse incentives, and that was what bothered me.

        Tucker: But in science, shouldn’t any question be allowed?

        Patrick: Exactly. So, when I tweeted, “He knows more science than most doctors.”

        Tucker: It’s a good thing you’re rich. Because you’d be out of a job, tweeting stuff like that.

        Patrick: But it is, right? And that’s what’s a blessing I think, that’s the American dream. The money is for the purpose of me being able to do this. And I was very concerned about being too loud about it because if this deep state would hold up approval, and they did by the way, they put us into, I had close to 700,000 pages in order to get this thing through.

        Tucker: 700,000, that’s like the US tax code.

        Patrick: This drug has been in trials now for 8 years. 2015.

        Tucker: How long was the Pfizer mRNA COVID in trials?

        Patrick: Months, not even. So, that’s why I’m trying to say, you know.

        Tucker: <chuckles> I know which one I’m taking!

        • IMA-GregT

          Member
          August 12, 2025 at 4:34 pm EDT

          Thanks very much for taking the time jgerber.

          • Jeff Gerber

            Member
            August 12, 2025 at 6:22 pm EDT

            Not a problem.

            I think people engage in the rumor mill and probably have never so much as heard Sec. Kennedy speak to hear what he is saying. I think I can tell when someone is telling the truth and Sec. Kennedy comes across as a very straight shooter if you listen to him speak.

            Further, I question how many of the naysayers practice what they preach with health. I mean, have a look at Sec. Kennedy’s healthy physique: https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1921609958631575969/photo/3 . Clearly he knows and practices health. Perhaps we need more photos of him showing his physique 😉

            • IMA-GregT

              Member
              August 13, 2025 at 9:03 am EDT

              How dare he go walking in the woods with his family?? There’s at least $100000 worth of fines there.

              😄

    • Cindi Anderson

      Member
      September 4, 2025 at 10:30 pm EDT

      There’s also the fact that Covid became associated with Republicans vs Democrats, which is really unfortunate. Things could have gone so differently.

      • IMA-HelenT

        Organizer
        September 5, 2025 at 7:22 am EDT

        So true

  • Beth Almeida

    Member
    August 11, 2025 at 11:50 pm EDT

    I read a couple of years ago that the average IQ in the US was falling … when it comes to vaccines, the ability to think independently of people in white coats and deciphering information, I believe IQ has hit the basement and kept on going. Right now, my family has not had COVID.

    • IMA-HelenT

      Organizer
      August 12, 2025 at 11:11 am EDT

      Itś something I hear again and again from owners of businesses that people facing – something has happened to our customers in the past 4 years, its like they can’t think anymore.

      • Beth Almeida

        Member
        August 12, 2025 at 2:00 pm EDT

        I was that way for about a second. Because you know sometimes it’s just easier to say “okay fine I’m going to let these people worry about it and I’m just going to do what they say because my brain can’t handle any more stress.” But thank Jesus, my mama and my daddy made a very stubborn child.

        I was stressed because I felt like no matter what decision I made if my kid got covid or somebody in my family got covid because we’re such a small family it’s going to cause a huge hole if something bad happens and so I was stressing everyday I sat in front of a computer and I bet I read more studies than 90% of the doctors in my area. (I live in Alabama. Not my fault I swear).

        I noticed that the more stressed I got the harder it was to make decisions. Maybe that’s part of everybody else’s problem right now. They’ve been so stressed for so long that they just can’t make decisions anymore. But boy howdy do they know how to attack somebody for saying ‘hey maybe you should try reading this to understand why people don’t necessarily like these vaccines’. So what I started doing is just I don’t even say hello I just immediately start with information studies paragraphs out of the study paper and then a link for it and and y’all’s websites probably got bazillions of links all over everywhere because of me I’m just like you know what I’m not even going to try to explain it here read this whole website.

        And also I have always as long as I can remember been one who would question what somebody told me before I would believe it. I think the way that a person thinks the way that they view things can help decide whether or not they just go along or they Buck the system so to speak.

        Question when you give a kid vitamin d should you also give them vitamin K2 as well? Like vitamin D3 and K2 together? I’m sure that somewhere on this website but I have yet to find it.

        • IMA-HelenT

          Organizer
          August 12, 2025 at 2:50 pm EDT

          But thank Jesus, my mama and my daddy made a very stubborn child.😅 Add that to a TShirt.

          I will ask your Vit D question and get back to you.

        • IMA-HelenT

          Organizer
          August 13, 2025 at 7:41 am EDT

          We do not have any specific research on our IMA website around children – I decided to do an AI search and here are the results:

          When giving a child vitamin D, it is not strictly necessary to give them vitamin K2 at the same time, but there are some reasons why co-supplementation is sometimes recommended.

          • Vitamin D supplementation alone is safe for children in standard doses and is widely recommended to support bone health and prevent deficiency.

          • Adding vitamin K2 may add benefits: Vitamin K2 works with vitamin D to help direct calcium into bones and away from soft tissues and arteries, potentially reducing the risk of arterial calcification and supporting better bone mineralization. This synergistic interaction is particularly noted for cardiovascular and bone health.

          • Most scientific bodies note that vitamin K2 is safe for children at recommended doses, and new research is exploring its role in children’s bone and cardiovascular health, although there is not yet universal consensus that it is necessary with every dose of vitamin D.

          • https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2791031

          • There are no major safety risks in giving both together, unless a child is on anticoagulant medication (such as coumarins), in which case vitamin K2 should be avoided or discussed with a doctor.

          • Large-scale trials and official recommendations specifically mandating vitamin K2 with vitamin D in children are still limited. The mainline approach is to ensure the child is getting enough vitamin D and a generally balanced diet that includes vitamin K from food.

          • https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8774117/

          In summary: Vitamin D is essential and safe for children, and while adding vitamin K2 may offer added benefits for bone and cardiovascular health, especially in combination with vitamin D, it is not strictly required unless directed by your child’s pediatrician. If you choose to use a combination supplement, ensure it is dosed specifically for children.

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