[IMA-GregT]

https://www.chula.ac.th/en/highlight/50619/

“Green chiretta” (Andrographis paniculate) known in Thai as “Fah Talai Jone”

Thanks very much for your post mab, No there is very little that’s not allowed to be chatted about. You had me interested so I spent some time looking around for it online. I searched for all of the herb’s names on our website, and you’re right, there isn’t anything.

Does anyone reading this have any further info on Fah Talai Jone?

[Dr.Colleen Galvin]

Good day! Although I have not used that herb, as an herbalist and acupuncturist, I treated many people during Covid with Chinese herb formulas as well as Ivermectin/methylene blue and others. From a diagnostic standpoint, herbs in formulas or combinations are superior to individual herbs; they are more balanced and penetrating. However, they are customized for you and your symptoms necessitating an intake vs a single herb for the masses. Having said that, I did recommend a combo of oregano/thyme/clove oils (Intestin-ol) for post covid upper respiratory symptoms!

[Dr.Colleen Galvin]

I’ve been a FLCCC doctor available to patients in CA/FL since 2020!🙏

[Elijah Lovejoy]

Dr. Mercoloa has articles that come up on a search for “chiretta”:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/10/19/andrographis-herb-healing-powers.aspx

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/03/31/spike-protein-detox.aspx

articles.mercola.com

Healing Powers of Ancient Herb Andrographis

Andrographis paniculata is an adaptogenic herb with health benefits that include antiviral, hypoglycemic, hepatoprotective and anti-inflammatory properties.

[Denise Massa]

If you search using the botanical name of Andrographis paniculata you might get more hits. I’ve been taking Andrographis extract for going on 2 years now as I have been recovering from mold illness. I first learned about it from Dr Jill Crista and she mentioned it’s use during Covid in Asia. You can learn more from her book Break the Mold and on her website drcrista.com.

[Stephen White]

Found this on WebMD

https://reviews.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientreview-973-ANDROGRAPHIS

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-973/andrographis

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[altabob]

Been following closely throughout Covid but I’d never heard of it. There is certainly an open mind here to any treatment ideas.

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[Meryl Ann Butler]

Thanks everyone for your interest!

Thanks altabob, for letting me know it’s ok to post my info. — I am going through my notes and will post the details. I have pdf notes also but I don’t see a way to attach pdfs here…any advice on that?Fah Talai Jone has given me miraculous results for other symptoms too…(when I first bought it, it could only be purchased direct from Thailand, it was about $10/bottle and took a month to arrive…but of course it’s on Amazon now, I think $30-$40, LOL.

[Meryl Ann Butler]

Here’s my journal entry of my personal, anecdotal report regarding my use of Fah Talai Jone when I had Covid:

(Note: I apparently came down with Covid on Aug 18, 2022, but the symptoms were so weird that I didn’t suspect it might be Covid for over a week. On Aug 29 I tested positive, and started taking the Fah Talai Jone that day. I had a Zoom with my doctor on Tuesday, Aug 30, he said I was likely not contagious anymore.)

Covid finally caught up with me, but I’ve learned some valuable secrets to share!

As a person who has had scary reactions to pharmaceuticals and a tendency toward anaphylactic shock, all my life I have been nudged to explore holistic remedies, and I have found many which work very well for me.

When the pandemic started, I started diffusing doTerra’s OnGuard essential oil every day. The recipe comes from the time of the Bubonic Plague, when the spice merchants were trying to figure out how to make a living when most of their customers were dying. Because they knew the secrets of herbs and spices, they concocted a mixture that made them impervious to the plague, so they were able to liberate valuables from the dead victims without getting sick. Of course, a superpower like that doesn’t go unnoticed in times of tragedy, and the king heard about these miraculous men and sent for them. The king wanted the secret too, but the spice merchants did not want to divulge it until they were given the choice between sharing what they knew and losing their heads. The king used the concoction and avoided the plague, and this is why we know the recipe today. I am convinced that breathing in the fumes of this plague-killer was the primary reason I was in better health during the first 2.5 years of the pandemic than ever before in my life.

Then a neck injury due to poor ergonomics earlier this summer sent me to doctors, meds and X-rays. I believe I was exposed to Covid in the waiting room when I went to get the Xrays. Shortly after, I had a very strange experience: suddenly, over the course of 2 or 3 minutes, I got a high fever and my teeth started chattering – a phenomenon I had never experienced before and I felt very ill.

I immediately took my standard homeopathic-style remedy, Dr. Schuessler’s Biochemic Tissue Salts (also called cell salts). His premise was that ill-health could be caused by an imbalance in the physical body’s twelve vital cell salts, and these imbalances could be corrected by easily absorbed, homeopathically prepared, micro-doses of each salt, which were selected based on symptoms. [Dr. Wilhelm Heinrich Schuessler (a late-1800s doctor of medicine, chemist and a physicist) believed that disease was caused by an imbalance of vital inorganic minerals at the cellular level, called “cell salts,” and these imbalances could be corrected by the introduction of homeopathically prepared, micro-doses of a salt,]

So I took the cell salt for fever, and curled up with a blanket and immediately fell into a fitful sleep. When I woke up, I had no fever, and it felt like I had tossed and turned for hours…however when I checked the clock, I saw that I had been asleep less than 2 hours! And while my fever had dropped, I was starting to experience sinus pain, so I took the cell salt to remedy that. Through the course of the next week, my various symptoms changed rapidly, but none stayed longer than 6-8 hours after taking the cell salts…and that is exactly how the cell salts are supposed to work—as symptoms changed, I readjusted which cell salt I was taking, and then the symptoms moved on.

I slept a lot, and a couple of days later I realized that I hadn’t eaten and wasn’t hungry. I was still cycling through a variety of symptoms, all of which responded very quickly to the cell salts, except the feeling of deep exhaustion. After a week of feeling bad, I finally wondered if I might have Covid, and got out one of the free test kits I had received from the government, only to find it had expired. So that delayed my testing for a couple of days until I could track down a local place that was doing the tests, and drag myself out of bed to go there.

So it was 10 days since the onset of the weird fever by the time I got tested for Covid and got a positive result. Even though my symptoms changed rapidly, I certainly wasn’t feeling any better. But once I knew I had Covid, I started on the Thai herb, Fah Talai Jone, that my holistic health practitioner had told me about when Covid hit…I had bought a bottle just in case.

I took my first two doses of Fah Talai Jone in the early evening as soon as I got the test results, and the next dose later in the evening, and woke up the next morning feeling noticeably better. I noticed amazing and significant additional improvement less than 24 hours after starting on the Fah Talai Jone, and very significant improvement every day after. In less than 3 days I felt so much more energy, and was out of bed and back to work on a reduced schedule.

I should have started taking the Fah Talai Jone earlier! My friend Jane says she takes it at the onset of anything like sniffles or sore throat and gets well right away.

Most sources say that the Fah Talai Jone should be taken at the earliest onset of symptoms, and that most people get over Covid in 5 days.I started much later into the process, but I was still well in 5 days after starting on the Fah Talai Jone.

I didn’t know then that Fah Talai Jone is used for all kinds of colds, virus, respiratory issues, if I had taken it at the onset of what turned out to be Covid, I am sure I would have gotten well quickly…probably so quickly that I wouldn’t have even tested for Covid! I have since taken it at the onset of symptoms such as sore throat, sniffles, and have never needed to take more than two doses.

(Note: My holistic health care practitioner provided links to several excellent and informative videos on Fah Talai Jone, but when I just checked before posting this here, I found that Youtube has removed them for “Violation of terms of service.” However, this one is still up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8geLqGCVXk&ab_channel=ThaiPBSWorld

Back at that time I also googled and found many excellent articles on the efficacy of Fah Talai Jone especially with Covid, and saved the links, but they don’t seem to work now. Most of the articles that come up now are unsurprisingly not in favor of using the herb. Now I wish I had made copies of the useful info when I found it!

this one is still up:

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000086

“Since December 2020, we have given Fah Talai Jone to 304 Covid-19 patients with non-severe symptoms. Most of the patients responded to the herb immediately and their condition actually improved in five days. The medication also did not have any adverse effects,” she explained.

“Each patient was given the herb containing 180 milligrams of Andrographolide three times a day before meals. However, the use of the herb must be under doctor supervision only,” she advised. [They probably say this mainly as a precaution.]

However, Amporn made it clear that although Fah Talai Jone is effective in stopping Covid-19 from progressing, it cannot provide any actual protection against the virus.

“If you suspect that you may have contracted Covid-19, get a test immediately, then stay in isolation and follow the measures suggested by the Public Health Ministry,” she said.

“Fah Talai Jone has been traditionally used to treat fever, cough and a sore throat. However, if your symptoms do not improve in two days of usage, you should see a doctor,” she added.

Here are some other articles that are still up:

https://www.herbalgram.org/resources/herbalgram/issues/129/table-of-contents/hg129-wnews-thai-andro-cov19/

Info on Tissue Salts

Tissue Salts/Cell Salts are available from most health food stores either singly or mixed in combinations. (I get mine from Bestmade because they are the only company I could find that offers a lactose-free version. https://bestmadenaturalproducts.com )

The cell calts are: Calcium Fluoride (Calc Fluor), Calcium Phosphate (Calc Phos.), Calcium Sulphate (Calc Sulph), Iron Phosphate (Ferr Phos.), Potassium Chloride (Kali Mur), Potassium Phosphate (Kali Phos), Potassium Sulphate (Kali Sulph), Magnesium Phosphate (Mag Phos.), Sodium Chloride (Nat Mur), Sodium Phosphate (Nat Phos), Sodium sulphate (Nat Sulph) and Silicon Dioxide (Silica).

Symptoms determine the particular cell salt needed. The Book I use for reference is The Biochemic Handbook (originally published in 1920) ISBN: 0-89378-051-0, which is available free online here: https://archive.org/details/biochemichandboo00chap

[mrko]

Not familiar with this herb. But as far as I know there are quite a few herbs will help with the symptoms at least. Including some TCM herbs. I believe if it works for you, it should work for others too. That’s how the traditional medicine will become the mainstream, not alternative medicine anymore, because they worked. Not like the synthetic drugs, only the pharmaceutical companies tell you they worked.