Continual Spike Protein?

  • Continual Spike Protein?

    Posted by medbsraven on December 28, 2024 at 7:38 pm EST

    Are there any updates to our understanding of whether the spike protein is continually produced post-vaccination and for how long it might continue? Everything I have seen seems vague or alludes to time periods less than a year after vaccination. What about years post initial shot series with no boosters? Does early treatment protocol have any effect on continued production?

    IMA-GregT replied 2 months, 2 weeks ago 8 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Jacques Marcille

    Member
    December 28, 2024 at 8:46 pm EST

    Even though unvaccinated I am also concerned by the same questions. Pharma will not do the research, so it is unfunded individuals doing the research on these problems which is slow work.

    I did find Augmented NAC (augmentednac.com) and because of possible shedding purchased two bottles of 90 caps which I take every other day in rotation with regular NAC. Augmented NAC destroys 99% of the spike protein in the blood. But does not clean the cells apparently.

    Since mRNA can enter the cell and turn into DNA in the nucleus, it seems that the production of spike protein is unstoppable. Crisper technology can identify and repair defective strands of DNA by replacing wrong elements with proper ones. In theory, it could find the culpable spike strand, and render it useless by replacing key elements with inactive ones. A good solution until the way is found to remove and destroy the added harmful DNA in its entirety.

  • Jacques Marcille

    Member
    December 28, 2024 at 8:52 pm EST

    Even though unvaccinated I am also concerned by the same questions. Pharma will not do the research, so it is unfunded individuals doing the research on these problems which is slow work.

    I did find Augmented NAC (augmentednac.com) and because of possible shedding purchased two bottles of 90 caps which I take every other day in rotation with regular NAC. Augmented NAC destroys 99% of the spike protein in the blood. But does not clean the cells apparently.

    Since mRNA can enter the cell and turn into DNA in the nucleus, it seems that the production of spike protein is unstoppable. Crisper technology can identify and repair defective strands of DNA by replacing wrong elements with proper ones. In theory, it could find the culpable spike strand, and render it useless by replacing key elements with inactive ones. A good solution until the way is found to remove and destroy the added harmful DNA in its entirety.

  • Jennifer Kimbrell

    Member
    December 28, 2024 at 9:44 pm EST

    Good question. I have often wondered the same. My understanding per the neurologist is it depends on the person. Some peoples’ bodies just continue to produce it and it’s unknown why or for how long. Being reinfected plays a part as well. The build up of the protein matters in this case.

    • medbsraven

      Member
      December 28, 2024 at 10:55 pm EST

      The reinfected part is interesting. I would assume any further boosters would put you at the worst risk since the actual virus is much less severe now (/common cold) and it seems the shedding only affects certain individuals as well if I understand some of the FLCCC’s guidance correctly

  • Stephen White

    Member
    December 28, 2024 at 10:22 pm EST

    <b data-wahfont=”28″>Yale Study Suggests mRNA Vaccine Spike Proteins Persist for Two Years, Sparking Genetic Safety Concerns

    by | Dec 23, 2024

    https://yournews.com/2024/12/23/2978238/yale-study-suggests-mrna-vaccine-spike-proteins-persist-for-two/

    • medbsraven

      Member
      December 28, 2024 at 10:59 pm EST

      So my questions about this would be are they planning a continuation where they look past 2 years post jab and did any of the participants have vaccine injury (known) or did any do treatment protocols, etc? If they did treatment my next question would be did the protein stop being produced for a period of time?

      • schreib69

        Member
        December 29, 2024 at 12:46 am EST

        I do not believe there is much potential for receiving a definitive answer here. The studies done so far have been few and it is a very complicated situation.

        As stated above every “body” is different if for no other reason than each person has:

        — a different immunity level because there body is in better shape for levels of vitamins(C, D, E, zinc) etc,

        — each person has different “co-morbidities” than the next, and

        — each person who received the vaccine got a different level of the ingredients(mRNA, unwanted DNA, unwanted RNA, LNP, SV40, graphene, etc) since there was poor quality control, there is

        — also a likelihood of intended mal-intent so some batches were “hotter” than others, some jabs went deep and hit a vein but others luckily missed. . .

        I could go on and on. Lastly, someone has to sanction and pay for the study. Will the government attempt to indict itself?!

        Hopefully, you get the picture.

        • medbsraven

          Member
          December 29, 2024 at 8:52 am EST

          Makes sense. From the I-RECOVER protocol it says “Once a patient has shown improvement, the various interventions should be reduced or stopped one at a time. A less intensive maintenance approach is then suggested.” So I guess I wonder if people have shown improvement, and reduced or discontinued interventions, did their symptoms then return later on and then go back onto the full protocol or have people generally seen improvement that they retain (even if they continue some maintenance approach)

  • roseb

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 3:53 am EST

    I have been doing spike protein antibody test for natural infection antibodies and vaccine produced antibodies. The results are interesting. I have had long covid since initial infection in 2020 and was constantly making infection antibodies until the beginning of this year when the test came back negative for infection antibodies. I have had several covid infections over the last few years. However despite the negative result for covid infection antibodies, the vaccine antibody level was still high?? Suggesting to me there are still vaccine produced antibodies and this mechanism is doing its own thing while there is no covid infection. This is 3 years after the last covid jab, I have had 3.

    My long covid doctor thinks I have become a spike protein factory, hence the constantly high number of vaccine antibodies. It has been showing as high as 17,000 on testing when it should be zero when there is no infection.

    Interestingly, what seems to bring the vaccine antibody level down is Natto-serra serra. I have been testing this, on my last antibody test the level came down to below 1, 000 so will keep going with this product.

    Despite this, the situation is very concerning. I had no medical issues prior to the covid era and was a marathon runner.

  • Stephen White

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 7:39 am EST

    Where/how are you getting vaccine antibody testing> I am unable to find anywhere.

  • roseb

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 8:02 am EST

    Are you in the UK? This is for UK testing.

    https://monitormyhealth.org.uk/covid19-antibody-and-vaccine-immunity-test/

    • IMA-GregT

      Organizer
      December 30, 2024 at 9:07 am EST

      Hi Roseb, thanks for your link to the test.

      I’m in the UK, just coincidentally, and I thought I’d look a little further into that test.

      May I ask why you are interested in this test? As the text reads – “Data to correlate antibody with protection against re-infection is currently lacking, but is an important element of the national SARS-CoV-2 research programme.

      So that was in Mar 2021, and they haven’t updated that with any later data.

      https://www.exeterlaboratory.com/update-sars-cov-2-serology-assay-22nd-march-2021/

      They mention the Siren Study, which was updated in Sept 2024

      https://www.gov.uk/guidance/siren-study.

      Anyway just interested as to what you’re looking for the antibody info for.

  • Kathryn Anderson

    Member
    December 29, 2024 at 10:10 am EST

    I have been followed by The Leading Edge Clinic/Pierre Kory’s Team for the last 3 months. With their protocol, my spike antibodies went from 5000 to 3500. I had already been doing Ivermectin and Platinum LED Biomax Light therapy/7 wavelengths. I am 67 years old with continuous estradiol, progesterone and testosterone since menopause. I have used LDN, melatonin and lithium orotate for over 10 years. I use the Autoimmune Protocol Diet/Ballantyne. The nurse said to keep using Ivermectin for a full year. I believe Mobeen Syed said that the Bcells are in the bone marrow, so it’s possible that there is no cure for making too many antibodies. It’s possible that this low level is okay. I’ve seen the guidance change on my thyroid autoantibodies. I did some research and found that many treatments modify P450 enzymes that break down drugs including immune supportive hormone replacement. I’m a little concerned about this long term as hormones are generally protective and I had always been healthy (aside from thyroid autoimmune) with my HRT and antiinflammatories. The fasting recommended caused a huge autoimmune flare with daily pain. I did not have any pain as part of long covid. Fasting can increase cortisol. I was not warned about this at all. If you feel shaky, stop fasting.

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