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Answering Fauci – The Guilt Argument , Herd Immunity
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Answering Fauci – The Guilt Argument , Herd Immunity
Fauci’s latest appearance has me upset. I mean this testimony before the Senate: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-says-unvaccinated-americans-responsible-for-up-to-300-000-deaths/vi-BB1nyFvc?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=124150b30ea343fa8d2729108574cd9e&ei=35
I will grant him this: he keeps his cool under fire. His demeanor reminds me of Oliver North. I’m not comparing his actions to Oliver North, but the way Fauci keeps his cool and is confident in his delivery I think is persuasive to the American people. He is the PERFECT spokesperson for big pharma, because he has the arguments Big Pharma spent billions of dollars to perfect “thought-bombs” with moral implications and which acquaintances and family repeat.
Fauci is a master advocate for instance of the guilt argument. In his testimony recorded in the above link he says “People who refuse to get vaccinated are responsible for an additional 2-300K deaths.”The idea there is that “if you don’t get vaccinated, even if you don’t get the disease, you are spreading the disease to other people, also unvaccinated. So it’s not just you whom you are affect affecting; you are killing other people. You’re being selfish, not a good citizen, refusing to do your part, etc.”
Thiis entire argument is designed to tie people up inside. Induce guilt the way Theo Fleury discussed a few FLCCC seminars ago. I have felt assaulted by people trying to induce guilt since the beginning of the pandemic. I am very sensitive to it.
This argument has been around since the beginning of the pandemic, and was used in regard to all vaccines well before the pandemic.
How do we defuse this “thought bomb?” If we could take away this “moral argument” from Fauci and his supporters, it would be real victory. It would take a great wind out of their sails.
I was wondering what other people’s thoughts on this are. One argument I realized is the following:1. There are other drugs which save lives; drugs that are more effective, have less or no side effects, cost less and have a better success rate, without rebound of the disease. Fauci is claiming he is the only person who wants to save lives. But if we are really concerned about saving lives, why aren’t people interested in those other drugs.
I also tell vaccine advocates that, since they have taken the vaccine, they are protected, so stop trying to make me personally responsible for killing people Proselytize all they want. But they must not really believe in vaccine efficacy because they are yelling at me so much.
However, the above answers don’t directly address the “moral” argument. That I am somehow immoral for not getting the vaccine. Another variant of this is the “herd immunity” which we heard so much about at the beginning of the pandemic, and here Fauci is still using it. He brought it back.
How do we take this “herd-immunity” argument away from Fauci and the vaccine manufacturers?
It could be because I have been abused, similar to Theo Fleury, but this is the argument to which I have been most sensitive throughout the pandemic. I am some how susceptible to the guilt. This “herd immunity” argument died down when it came out that the frankenshot didn’t stop transmission anyway, but it will be used in the next pandemic.
Have people read any good books on this subject?
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You pose some good questions. I wish I had a good answer. Fauci makes me physically ill, like I want to throw up. He is such a slick liar. I saw a group picture of him and his staff a few years ago. The only person smiling was Fauci. The rest looked troubled and upset.
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If the vaccine really worked, there shouldn’t be any moral dilemma. I called out friends on the guilt argument – remember ‘don’t kill grandma’? It was the same thing with wearing masks, which do nothing but if you want to wear one, go for it. Early on I was really mystified by the lack of any research into therapeutics, something other than just wait it out, then go to the hospital when you get really sick. Closing the beaches and playgrounds when the best thing people could have done was be outside, get vitamin D? Remember the CDC sponsored ads making fun of people taking ‘horse paste’? I am still very upset with all of this, especially the fact that they mandated vaccines for young kids and college students – who knows what the long term effects will be. Watching Fauci made me sick, but I did like the one congressman who was a doctor during covid just yell at Fauci during his allotted time for threatening his livelihood when he dared to question ‘the science’. Unreal.
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The purpose of a vaccine is supposed to be to prevent the disease from becoming established in the person so they don’t develop all the bad effects, like death for instance. It is a prophylactic. A vaccine typically takes a long time to role out to the public, like 10 years, in order to determine its safety and effectiveness and all the possible contraindications and adverse effects. But as many of us know or learned during the past few years is that there are other ways of dealing with a disease besides a vaccine. There are other modalities that can provide prophylaxis that are in fact safe and effective with known contraindications and adverse effects. Clinicians learned quite early that such meds as IVM and HCQ and steroids and even Vit D were effective against SC2.
Participation in a world wide medical experiment was what the governments around the world were pushing at the urging of big pharma who had a lot of money at stake. The medical profession was onboard with this process from the start since they were at a loss for understanding anything about SC2. Unless of course people started listening to alternative narratives from people and organizations like the FLCCC. So the argument I make is why would anyone in their right mind voluntarily participate in an experiment without knowing all of the “facts” that can only be obtained with time. The irresponsible thing is to volunteer for this experiment and to knowingly put yourself at risk and your friends and family as well. Especially when you know that there are alternative treatments that work far better than the vaccine standard of care. If safety and effectiveness are your hallmarks for treatment, then IVM and alternative protocols far outweigh the risks associated with the vax especially one with a whole new technology associated with its delivery.
Those have been my arguments from the very beginning which is why I am unvaxxed and am a big proponent of using IVM based on its safety profile and its many MOAs. The ones who should feel guilty are the ones taking the vax who are managing to introduce unknown injury to the population and for keeping the spike protein alive through shedding.
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