[gratitude]

What about non-tumor cancers i.e. CLL leukemia?

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks for the question, I will put this to the team.

[gratitude]

Is there a link to yesterday’s webinar? Don’t see it on youtube or rumble and I’m no longer on X. Thanks so much!

[IMA-GregT]

@gratitude Here you go – a few to choose from 🙂

On Rumble – https://rumble.com/v72l13i-how-to-starve-cancer-a-conversation-with-jane-mclelland.html

On Odysee- https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/How-to-Starve-Cancer-A-Conversation-with-Jane-McLelland:3

On Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/episode/5JeYu6Koatc0mdZ1apdAOQ?si=77dce3105568460d

On X – https://x.com/Honest_Medicine/status/1996368461828878694?s=20

Youtube to follow

rumble.com

How to Starve Cancer: A Conversation with Jane McLelland

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[gratitude]

Thank you, GregT.

I’ll go to rumble. Youtube always a last choice : )

[IMA-GregT]

👍

[David Wegener]

The most common questions I get from pts center around diets.

Keto?

Carnivore?

GL or GI (glucose index or glucose load) ratings?

A secondary set of questions: dealing with cancer pts with various comorbidities: liver disfunction, kidney, diabetes… these three bring up lots of complications.. Any thoughts around these issues would be helpful.

also: is there any experience/efficacy with poorly differentiated chordoma, with the ReDO – based protocols?

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks @thatechguy … will pass these along too.

[goldenarrow]

Just watched the livestream and found it very fascinating. Is there a way for you to have her back on again and lead people through a tutorial of a few different types of cancer to use the AI tools available. Like, pick perplexity, and go through the steps of how to ask it questions about your particular cancer as a practical visual exercise for the viewers to see for themselves??? I cannot make heads or tails of any scientific journal and would never know what acronym is related to which pathway.

An alternate idea is to have her use her AI tools to compile an AI-created Reference Book that can summarize all the obscure words and concepts.

[IMA-HelenT]

Great idea, will send it over to the team now. So glad you found it useful.

[vegandan]

I just did that exact thing with Prostate Cancer. See my topic for what I did.

[Erik Shinn]

I had trouble finding @IMAHealth on X.

Apparently IMA’s account is now @Honest_Medicine.

If anyone wants to watch tonight’s show, it’s available there.

x.com

[IMA-HelenT]

Thanks @marbo flagyl … a reminder to add that in future to the post. 🙂

[IMA-GregT]

❤ An X spreader? Wonderful.

[David Wegener]

Great podcast last night.

Jane’s map is really powerful, and I’ve got a followup question on it. I might’ve missed this somewhere…

She mentions MBZ for downregulation of the Glutamine/Glucose legs of the triangle. She also mentioned briefly MBZ and FBZ together (in modulating proteasome, but better in adjunct with bortezomib), but I might’ve missed additional mention of FBZ.

The question: is FBZ similarly effective as MBZ at the various downregulation/inhibition mechanisms?

Are there readily available data supporting either (FBZ vs MBZ) in these (OXPHOS, Glycolysis, GLUT1, Glutaminolysis)?

Many pts are sourcing FBZ for various reasons, but I’m curious if there is evidence of higher efficacy either way, on those specific pathway mechanisms.

[IMA-HelenT]

Let’s see if someone has an answer here.

[David Wegener]

I was actually hoping to hear it from one of the team or Jane.

Hoping these forums don’t continue to fill up with a lot of anecdotal fact-free recommendations – we really do NOT need another form of Facebook-for-cancer.

[IMA-HelenT]

I can certainly ask the team to see if anyone has an answer for you, and perhaps you could contact Jane on her website https://www.howtostarvecancer.com/

howtostarvecancer.com

How to Starve Cancer – Jane McLelland

How to Starve Cancer – Jane McLelland

[goldenarrow]

I have heard that taking Fenben and Meben at the same time can lead to some toxicity at some unknown dosage and timeframe. This needs to be quantified and published.

As far as pathways, I cannot understand much of the science but Jane’s map is a good start to specify which type of cancer uses which type of pathways in order to target treatment exactly. I wish a multi-multi-millionaire would create an AI-driven portal where anyone on planet earth can submit genome biopsy results, pay a small fee, and get a 2 page description of the cancer and an exact protocol for their cancer, including traditional drugs, repurposed drugs, super-nutrients, and diet (OK, maybe it has to be 3 or 4 pages long). Then bring it to a doc who can prescribe the needed prescriptions and some coaching how to afford the nutrients (MANY 3rd-party nutrients are of low quality!!!).

[Philip Wong]

The biggest issue here is quality and safety of these drugs people are getting. I would recommend only getting them with an associated prescription rather than ordering it from an unverified source. Cost will be higher, however, you will be safer in the long run.

The side effects and toxicities are not well known to the community due to variations in how people are obtaining the medication. Impurities can add to potential side effects and potentially make them worse. Biggest issue with fenben would be pancytopenia and with mebenazole would be liver failure.

In terms of studies, these are old medications and big pharma does not want to put the money into researching them. If they ever do, expect the cost of the medication to skyrocket with the new indication.

[Monica Ballard-Booth]

Are the points that were covered on last night’s webinar applicable to canines?

[IMA-HelenT]

So sorry, I don’t have any idea. I follow a great Holistic Vet on Instagram (also on YT) called Dr. Andrew Jones, perhaps give him a follow.

[Gary Graziano]

I don’t KNOW this in a scientific sense, but I believe it based on research I did prior to starting my own cancer protocol: they act in a similar way, and have similar issues with absorption. I found that mebendazole was easier and less expensive to obtain. What clinched it for me was fenbendazole is mostly a veterinary medicine, and I didn’t want to deal with any potential complexities regarding its form and dosage. I have corresponded with cancer survivors who vehemently recommend fenbendazole, so I don’t know. Toss a coin? I’m taking 4 100mg doses daily. The directions say “take with a fatty meal.” I don’t eat fatty meals, per se, so I crush mine with mortar and pestle and take with a tablespoon of high-quality olive oil. I haven’t experienced any toxic effects, but I’d recommend a fiber supplement. One may tend toward constipation, particularly if also doing a ketogenic diet as I am. Note: this is what I am doing; NOT MEDICAL ADVICE!

[goldenarrow]

I like your post! From what I know, Fenbendazole is literally just one atom difference compared to Mebendazole. Perhaps the structure is also somewhat different since Mebendazole can get past the blood-brain barrier and Fenben cannot! So, if dealing with cancer, I would stick with Mebendazole obtained through a licensed compound pharmacy. Pesky cancer cells and cancer stem-cells have the low possibility of getting into the brain.

Also, Fenbendazole is mixed with unknown Inactive Ingredients for most veterinarian supplied pastes and liquids. Supposedly, the only type with GRAS (Generally Accepted As Safe) inactive ingredients is the creamy white paste for horses and cattle, but all the manufacturers keep that list of inactive ingredients secret. It is probably OK, but still an unknown. Also, I would NEVER want to ingest the topical or injectable forms!!!

Personally, I want to support compound pharmacies who are trying to carve a niche-market for making re-purposed human drugs more available at low prices. I took advantage of All Family Pharmacy’s Black Friday BOGO special and now have a whole year’s worth of Mebendazole. Where we funnel our money towards will determine who survives in the marketplace since the U.S. Medical System & Big Pharma are dead set against any of these cost-effective drugs becoming known to the public!

[IMA-HelenT]

Not sure what happened, but your reply is on the thread three times 🙂

[goldenarrow]

My post was flagged as “spam”. Greg fixed it but I cannot delete old posts due to the forum system settings.

[IMA-GregT]

Apologies @goldenarrow , when I saw your responses in spam, I unspammed them all. I think we’ve trimmed down the additional now…maybe. 🙂

[goldenarrow]

Thank you Greg for cleaning up my repetitive posts since the system did not tell me why they were being deleted. I appreciate that there are controls on the web site to keep things safe from malicious internet hackers and such. Thank you for everything you are doing! 😃

[IMA-GregT]

👍 You’re very welcome. Apologies for the frustration. Looks like your posted aren’t being picked up anymore. A good thing.